8 8. comments. its outstanding clarity and light gathering capabilities are extremley good. I dont have a dsc yet but I am planning on getting it at some point in the next few years! Not too many ranges around here longer than 100 yards, so .223 would be "adequate" I'm sure. .243 offers way more ammo choices for deer and a bit more energy for the marginal shot. when choosing guns, you have to pick the gun that will suit what you are doing most, not the gun that will do everything. .223 is plenty for coyote, and kills paper just as dead as anything else. my 1st kill was with a .243 n it killed it dead. .243 could be used for,Paper targets, Coyotes, Deer. From what i've read, the 22-250 is a step up from the 223 and the 243 is 2-3 steps up from the 22-250. The 243 has a wider range of bullet weights allowing for use on varmints or medium size game animals. 223 is cheaper. The 243 round was much louder (out in the field with no ear protection), it could reach out a little further, and with accurate hits it was instant (fall over) death to the varmint. × The choice is obvious. My Tikka T3 in .243, shooting 85gn Sierra gamekings, culled 8 Munties and 47 foxes last year ! share. .243 IMO is a bit heavy. I am not a fan of 223 for deer. Ammo will cost more than .223. The 223 is more than capable of yotes past 500 yards with ease. shoul i get my handi rifle in .223 ir .243 i will be hunting deer,yotes,foxs,bobcats and potintuly wild hogs. the 243 would be less effected by wind drift then the 223. and it is a better deer/antelope/varmint gun then the 223. but as bub has said if its for coyote only go with the 22-250. i have both the 243 and 22-250,and both are great guns.myself i don't care for the 223,having had both ar-15s and bolt action rifles. The ideal bullet in .243 for fox shooting is the 62 Grain Varmint Grenade (powdered Tin Copper composite) or a heavier standard lead bullet where there is a nice flat trajectory with very little wind deflection. Seemed like 223 would be the way to go. Just didn't know how much more distance I could get out of a 243? Every bit as good. The .243 guarantees you can do deer and foxes and does both very well and you can do all species of deer so Fallows locally won't be a problem, but you won't be able to do vermin. Even though there is a price diff in ammo between .223 & .243 you are not going to be spraying bullets around all the time so cost isn't realy a factor, as it will take a lot of shoots to mount up to the same as buying 2 rifles if you later go for a .308 for Fallow and Reds. 600yds doesn't seem like much of a problem for .223 on yotes. report. It's cheaper to shoot and very accurate (not that the 243 is not). Posted by 4 hours ago. The 243 has a wider range of bullet weights allowing for use on varmints or medium size game animals. But when it comes to deer, why not just get a 30 caliber gun and call it a day. When out shooting fallow I'm hardly going home to get the .243, when I see a muntjac.   Your previous content has been restored. I will mainly be using the gun for fox plus deer hopefully! I'd go 243 and spend less on the scope (although I have a Monarch on my 243 and it is nice). both calibers are capable well beyond 300 yards with heavy bullets and a fast barrels. Jim, your 223 is EXACTLY what I'm going for. Yes a 243 will work too, but it costs 3x as much to shoot and is overkill when it comes to rabbits. I appreciate all the advice guys I'm 90% sure I'm going for the .243, If it all gets to much for you take a walk out the back, i'm sure they have a spare room for you and you could shoot the Bunnies through the bars of your padded cell. I have shot no end of Muntjac and never noticed too much meat damage. Savage 22-250 and look no further. When i got my .243 its was not an option to shoot small Deer with .223 but if i was in your shoes i would still go .243 and keep that Roe/Fallow option. History. im looking for a ligt recoil heavy barreled rifle that will get out to 400-600 yards! However depending on the rifle's rate of twist the 243 will probably prefer a specific bullet weight. That is my choice- TC Encore. and i think if it wasn't for the ar-15 type guns, the 223 would not be as … And the 223 can be a freakin laser beam in the sort of ranges you mentioned. Synthetic & s/steel Tikka T3 & T8 mod any good? Don't forget you may pick up some Roe stalking and your .223 won't be any use for that this side of the border. He had a vast armoury of stock & there was a nice new Titan 3 what are these like any good? As illustrated in the chart, .223 Remington rounds - on average - achieve a velocity of about 3150 feet per second (fps) while .243 Winchester rounds travel at a velocity of 3180 fps. (As a birthday pressie) B), My bro in law lives in the states & comes over on business quite a bit, so what scope should he be bringing me? Bullet cost about the same, maybe a bit more for quality 243 bullets. hide. Even though there is a price diff in ammo between .223 & .243 you are not going to be spraying bullets around all the time so cost isn't realy a factor, as it will take a lot of shoots to mount up to the same as buying 2 rifles if you later go for a .308 for Fallow and Reds. That is my choice- TC Encore. Speaking to people they think the bigger calibre is to much for small deer, causing unnecessary meat damage. I've regularly shot muntjac with a .270, using Norma 130 grains. In terms of comfort, the .223 Rem. Close. #best accuracy with the longest range? Such emails will be ignored. Under 600 yards, however, the .220 Swift is champ because of it's flat trajectory. go on,you know it makes sense! Under 600 yards, however, the .220 Swift is champ because of it's flat trajectory. Clear editor. It is perfect for fox and rabbits, especially if you handload. 243 all the way - i use it for both and the occasional rabbit B) , like others have said its an ideal round - 55grn - 75grn ballistic tips for foxing and 80grn - 100+ grn soft nose for deer ( i've knocked quite a few fallow over with mine ). It's cheaper than the .243, too. Not enough crack for me. .223 Ballistics. save. Bad experience can come from wounding an animal with to smaller caliber aswell that may put her off for life. I don't know what to tell you. 223 vs 243 Winchester - Size Comparison. and i think if it wasn't for the ar-15 type guns, the 223 would not be as … 2 AR's and a bolt 223. I'm not shooting varmint bullets so might be carrying a tad more energy downrange. Another vote for the .243 .......Ideally you'll need to get in to homeloading to get the best potential Fox round and this calibre comes with a very broad portfolio in that department......For Deer the 105 grn SP factory ammo should be OK there. The short answer is get the 243, it is the more versatile of the two. He said there's no such thing as an all round foxing / deer rifle, & proceeded to baffle me with ballistics & different grained bullets & I think his sway on things was if you was going out foxing you would have a different grained round to if you was going stalking, thus changing the zero of the rifle? The best all around varmint cartridge though is the .22-250. If you still feel you are qualified to post in those subforums, please contact "Shane Tuttle" (the mod for that portion of TFL) via Private Message for assistance. I have to agree with you on the quality of scopes here. I shoot 200 yards out back with all of them. Close. Performance varies with barrel length, but typical .223 ballistics with factory ammo are a 50gr bullet at 3,345fps (1,242 ft-lbs), a 55gr bullet at 3,240fps (1,282 ft-lbs), and a 62gr bullet at 3,100fps (1,323 ft-lbs)..308 Ballistics The .243 will hold velocity and retain accuracy further than any of the.22s. September 18, 2007 in Guns & Equipment. So for practice ammo, the 223 is in the clear lead, while it’s essentially the same on hunting ammo. I went out last night to learn some gun safety and had the opportunity to fire at some targets with a 223, 220 and 270, now the .223 just felt really nice to shoot with and it has me wondering if i should change my application form from a 243 to a 223. Pelty's usual gun shop in Barnet, he's alot cheaper than my local. but a .243 works good This email contact address is not an "Ask the Firearms Expert" service. The .243 Win. 223 vs 243 vs 270. by petemacsydney » Mon Dec 02, 2013 9:59 pm Anybody got advice on 223 vs 243 vs 270? I am intending to do my DSC1 so hopefully that will change, although the Peltman has said he'd have no problem mentoring me. Hot factory ammo through 243 isn't really "plink all day funzone", especially if the rifle is on the lighter side. as my 3.5-10x42 30mm Swarovski for clarity, and better for dusk/dawn light gathering. Should I get a 223 or 243. My situation is a bit odd, perhaps. Chopped a 222 in for a 243 .......... so its obvious where my vote goes ! The cost of 243 brass is almost twice that of the 223 cases, but you don't lose them in a bolt gun and are reusable a good number of times. Now a day they make so many different loads for the .243 it’s awesome. I have all of the following calibers .243 .223 22.250 and 6.5 creedmor. i have the 4-14x50 ill mp8. First off, as the OP notes, the straight our ballistics questions is clear. 1. the jackals are about the same size as a coyote in here the U.S. and the springbok is about the size as a small deer here the 243 will be a flatter shooting and more fps.and more energy with a heavier slugs. I would go for the .243 if I had to choose. Unfortunately they had just sold there last Tikka, I would stick with the PW advice so far, and go for the .243. Want to shoot 243? Assuming you have a rimmy of some sort, I'd get the .243 because it covers the Deer species better. Should I get a 223 or 243. Stealth Stalker, You can load a bit heavier for hunting predators or varminting and since most .223 rifles have that slower twist rate, shorter leade and tighter freebore, the .223 will likely be more accurate. $250 plus some scope mounts/rings. I have never owned .223, but have .222, and if ever I am going foxing I always pick up the .243, it is one of the most versatile rounds, I disagree with the statement made by al4x by the way, about "you can do all species of deer ", personally I always pick. The 5.56 is simply the military designation for the 223! Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: The 223 is more than capable of yotes past 500 yards with ease. By .22 C/F for small deer species is here in October. I still have 4 of the .223's and one .243. thanks If you are a TFL member and can access TFL, please do not use this link; instead, use the forums (like Questions, Suggestions, and Tech Support) or PM an appropriate mod or admin. I just dont feel the love for Savage, although they are rumored to be shooters. Never assume that a low post … All I can say is you lucky ****** B) Why not just have both and then decide before you go out which quarry species you are going after. report. I got my variation through the post last week (I was expecting a visit from my FLO with lots of questions) but they just sent it out with everything I asked for B) .223 for vermin & fox & .243 for fox & deer. I'm thinking Remington 700. Cracking round,devestating to mr fox!!!! Better to have more and not use it,than to want more and not have it available. theres the dilema and a half. from what I've heard and seen in pictures, coyotes around NY tend to be bigger than coyotes in most other areas of the country. wins in a landslide. If you are experiencing difficulties posting in the Buy/Sell/Trade subforums of TFL, please read the "sticky" announcement threads at the top of the applicable subforum. As for the scope well it'd have to be a leupold with a standard duplex cross air as it's the states but I'd recommend Europeon Glass like a schmidt and that is really expensive ,in fact alot dearer over the pond . .243 is a fine round. Best .223 Rifle – Final Shots. The .223 Remington shoots small diameter, lightweight bullets at a very high velocity. Soldiers with 223’s aren’t concerned with recovery of critically wounded targets. But, a .223 caliber rifle is enough to give you perfect hunting experience for a deer. I own both a .223 rem (AR-15) and a .243 win (NEF handi-rifle), I have taken plenty of varmints with both as well as a few deer with the .243 win. Velocity. Many hunters are looking for higher caliber for hunting now a day. I think the .243 is pushing the limits on Fallow, with no margin for error. Best of both worlds then. As a kid growing up in PA I slaughtered many a deer with my .243. Remember it's not uncommon to struggle focusing on a fine crossair at night. The .223 is a smaller bullet not just in size but, a good deal in weight and does not have the range or power that the .243 has. The 243 was better in windy conditions. Personally (and this is my opinion) I would stick with the .243 for deer. A general all purpose small caliber rifle. The 22-250 is a great round as is the 243, the 223 just doesn't do it for me. From what i've read, the 22-250 is a step up from the 223 and the 243 is 2-3 steps up from the 22-250. They are built in Romania, and use Schott lenses (German manufactured). .243 atleast if you ever fancy a go at roe,fallow youll have the kit already,youll be supprised how tough little muntys are not saying a 223 struggles to drop them i just like to have a do everything rifle would be very frustrating being out and only be able to take muntys when for a sake of a slightly bigger caliber you could stalk all legally Do what I did and buy 1 of each. Re: .223 vs .243 please. Your .223 will only collect dust if you get both I feel. I’m sure a .243 or even the .223 will kill quickly with good bullet placement. The very knowledgeable owner of the shop asked me a few questions, what I'd be intending to shoot etc... And he advised me to go with the .223 as its being cleared for CWD & Muntjac in October. It is easy on the ears and shoulder, easy to shoot well, and easy on the pocket book. Thinking about the CZ-550 American with single set trigger in .243, but I have no real knowledge of this rifle other than my experience with the CZ-452 Varmint/17HMR (all good). I'm just curious, as I'm going to buy my next scope from the US. That means it will be more precise at long range, though there are better rifle chamberings purely for long-range target work and varminting (.22-250 and .243 Winchester come to mind). I use the .243 for coyotes and groundhogs, and do the same with the .22-250. The .243 will hold velocity and retain accuracy further than any of the.22s. Whatever you do make sure you get a stock that fits her. 8 8. comments. Is he just playing me along, knowing that I'd be back to buy another larger caliber rifle in 6 months time? The noticeable difference to me was the ammo cost, the 223 being lower vs 243. Several of these experimenters necked up the .223 Remington to 6mm as the .243 inches (6.17 mm) caliber bullets provided better external ballistic performance over .224 inches (5.69 mm) caliber bullets. Ok there I was in the gun shop packed wallet in hand with the intention of getting a .243 Tikka T3 synthetic stock / stainless barrel. Just looking for a sweet little bolt action rifle with more punch than a rim fire. Gotta be .243 all the way...you never say never.Bit of roe stalking may come your way and then you,ll be thinking ahh *****r B). Powered by Invision Community, People here on Pigeon Watch aren't trying to sell you anything. Should I get a 223 or 243. What guns do you have already? However depending on the rifle's rate of twist the 243 will probably prefer a … $250 plus some scope mounts/rings. And would love to add one of the new Ruger AR-556 rifles to my .223 collection, if my wife lets me. Fairer to say that TEC is apparently not particularly experienced with bolt action centerfire rifles. My Savage .223 is probably my favorite gun that I own. I don't care about barrel life... With the manufacturers making rifles with faster twists for the .22-250s now you shoot heavier bullets and outclass the .223... Well, Upstate, now you've gone and done it. .223 Ballistics. I would say he has got your interest at heart but not fully aware of your situation.The thing is a .223 @1250 ft lbs doing 3250 FPS is just as lethal as .243 @2000 ftlbs doing 3500 fps .No way is shooting a smaller calibre going to be more forgiving but such is the choice of ammo in .243 that there is a very high chance you can develop a small round for fox and the smaller Deer species .Let's face it you'll either shooting one or the other and it's only a matter of noting the clicks moved on scope adjustment when shooting the heavier SP round . I am not a fan of 223 for deer. I plan going coyote hunting with my dad the 223 because it's faster and ammo's cheaper here in Wyoming but I plan on going deer hunting too so i won't have to buy two guns. is the obvious winner. What I forgot to mention in my previous post was I am restricted to being accompanied by an experienced stalker for deer. I've owned and shot both as a varmint hunter. will blow up a groundhog and drop a coyote in its tracks. Entry level 223 ammo is also heaps cheaper. The best all around varmint cartridge though is the .22-250. The .243 sends a bigger bullet down range and is a great long range flat shooting round in a small package capable and legal to shoot deer with. I’m sure a .243 or even the .223 will kill quickly with good bullet placement. 55 gn is the most common for everyone to buy but by no means do you have to shoot that weight. Want to shoot 243? 67 posts • Page 1 of 3 • 1, 2, 3. As Chuck Hawks notes in his great recoil table, the .223 Rem. He is right about changing zero for different bullet wieghts, but you shouldn't need to change bullet weight for fox or the smaller deer. It gives you more options than the .223 that will always be restricted to the smaller deer species. A general all purpose small caliber rifle. The only advantage the 223 has is cheap surplus ammo (well, it use to be cheap) can sometimes be found. But, before we jump into the ballistics of the .223 Remington, .22-250 Remington, and .243 Winchester, we should remember why anyone bothers hunting what is generally considered an inedible critter (even though some meat eaters are now imbibing.) The 223 or even 243 in most cases don’t kill as quickly and in almost all cases doesn’t leave the blood trail that a larger caliber dies. produces about half the felt recoil of the .243 Win. I also reload. First I would pick what style gun you want, if its an AR for sure then you are restricted to the calibers that are available, 22-250 not being one. Display as a link instead, × Oh, and I used the 243 on whitetail deer, because I wasn't comfortable using the 223 round. I shoot both and reload for both, if you are buying good hunting ammo, I don't really see that much difference in price. If your brother in law is willing to carry a scope for you from the US, I would highly recommend looking at, the IOR range of scopes. Or compromise and get the 6x45. Location: A big city with far too many cars and people. If you aren't keeping pelts, the 243 puts coyotes down harder. "Agricultural" in that they are as solid as a rock, you feel you could drive a truck over them without damaging the scope. I have had 3 smaller shooters (2 ladies and a kid) shoot my relatively light tikka with 120 grain bullets and no one has complained about recoil. 300 Blackout vs 223 Recoil. sorry about that what I should have said is Legally you can and obviously there are a lot of people who shoot up to Red hinds with them ok a bigger caliber gives you more certainty. .243 will more than likely be your typical rifle platform. The .243 isn't readily available in the SS configuration I like, so I'm trying to decide if I should just pick up a SS in .223, or get the blued version (with the tan stock) in .243. all thou a 223 would be a good one for your needs too and probably cheaper for you than the 243 . Soon after the release of the .223 Remington as a commercial cartridge, shooters began experimenting with the cartridge in an attempt to improve its performance. 223 is cheaper. The cheapest online 223 Or 243 Rifle And 243 Autoloading Rifle You can order 223 Or 243 Rifle And 243 Autoloading Rifle after check, compare the values and chec If you reload, hunting ammo is similar in cost for both rounds. IMHO a 243 is a overkill for yotes. Also look at the switchable barrel rifles, maybe get a .223 that allows you to easily and cheaply create a .243 later? Well done on getting what you asked for SS. What I did notice, was that they died cleanly and quickly. I shoot 68 and i also have a awesome load for 75 A-Max also. It is mostly up to you on personal preference and availability. I own both a .223 rem (AR-15) and a .243 win (NEF handi-rifle), I have taken plenty of varmints with both as well as a few deer with the .243 win. .243 thoughts, I all ready have a 243 in a pump, however another in a bolt gun wouldnt hurt. .222, .223, .22-250, .220 swift and #.243. Upload or insert images from URL. The other option as someone else mentioned is a switch barrel gun. Probably not in your lifetime. I have .223, .243, 30/30 and even a Savage 99 in 300 Savage. Pigeon Watch Ltd. Saying this we were in the shop chatting for 45 mins & I genuinely believe he had my best interest at heart. I was looking at a savage stevens model 200 in .223, maybe putting a tasco target/varmint 4=12x scope on top. .243 thoughts, I all ready have a 243 in a pump, however another in a bolt gun wouldnt hurt. I own an AR15 in .223, a singe shot .243 Winchester, and a Weatherby Vanguard in a .22-250 Remington. Typical factory loaded, it can propel a 55 grain (3.56 g) spritzer bullet at 3.680 ft/s (1.122 m/s) with 1.654 ft-lbf (2.243 J) of energy, while many other loads with lighter bullets are used to achieve velocities of over 4.000 ft/s (1.219 m/s) and still having effective energy for use in … head shots, and be very picky about what bullet. Ammo will cost more than .223. hide. Performance varies with barrel length, but typical .223 ballistics with factory ammo are a 50gr bullet at 3,345fps (1,242 ft-lbs), a 55gr bullet at 3,240fps (1,282 ft-lbs), and a 62gr bullet at 3,100fps (1,323 ft-lbs)..308 Ballistics The .223 is a great varmint round and is cheaper to shoot that the .243 Not too many ranges around here longer than 100 yards, so .223 would be "adequate" I'm sure. In non-pandemic times, the .223 Rem. Re: Bolt action .223 vs .243 for 100-200 yard target shooting .223 it is! Think of all the shooting you get to do. The .223 Remington shoots small diameter, lightweight bullets at a very high velocity. The other option as someone else mentioned is a switch barrel gun. My largest stocks of ammo are, of course, .223 and .308. Right now I've got a 223 AI barrel. The US sales arm of IOR is Valdada Website. Kinda what I thought because I can load up a 223 and load down the 3006 for sure. If you don't plan to shoot Deer much, then rezeroing isn't a problem because you're not going to be changing that often. I can get a .223 cal 36 grain Varmint Grenade at 4040 fps to fly as flat as the 58 Grain VMax in .243 but with even a little wind, it's poor beyond 100 yards. In your case for Ohio I would go with the 223 in that rifle rather than the 243, unless you may venture out of Ohio to hunt deer, and prong horn, the the 243 Win is a far better cartridge. 223 vs 243 vs 270. I have owned 5 different .223 rifles, 1 22-250, and 5 different rifles in .243 Win. plus im not a fan of sending a bigger faster bullet through something. Yes a 243 will work too, but it costs 3x as much to shoot and is overkill when it comes to rabbits. It is mostly up to you on personal preference and availability. First I would pick what style gun you want, if its an AR for sure then you are restricted to the calibers that are available, 22-250 not being one. I plan going coyote hunting with my dad the 223 because it's faster and ammo's cheaper here in Wyoming but I plan on going deer hunting too so i won't have to buy two guns. Excellent fox/deer round with such a variety of bullets and weights available. And there was me me edgeing towards the .223. To put this into perspective, a Boeing 737 commercial airliner travels at a cruising speed of 600 mph, or 880 fps. To me a centrefire is overkill for rabbits etc though some winged vermin its pretty handy. groundhogs yeah cause 98% you hit the ground but coyote you send that clean through it and into the woods or fields still doing 2k fps with the 243. I'd go 243 and spend less on the scope (although I … If you have a firearm related question, please register and post it on the forums. As long as you use the correct bullet type (i.e. that will add up to another £1000 quid with it dressed and the rest. The best .223 rifle will be a versatile and capable firearm that will allow you to legitimately use it for plinking, target shooting, hunting and even for home defense if you are inclined to use a small caliber high powered rifle for home defense (see our notes about that a little lower in the article).. Soldiers with 223’s aren’t concerned with recovery of critically wounded targets. Pros of using a .223 caliber Rifle. I might of miss lead you, I could say that most of the Monkeys i've shot have not had as much meat damage as the one you took the other week so don't be to put of by that. share. Shopping for a very accurate bolt action rifle in either .223 or .243 (I think), ambi stock, RH bolt, light weight, intended for large varmint & occasional deer hunting, probably off a tripod rest. A quick video showcasing the 223 and 243 cartridges against my fake deer target. As well as our in-depth 5.56 vs .223: Comparison of the Two Rifle Ammo Choices article. I'm not a .223 fan.. Other than being economical..   Pasted as rich text. I'm going to buy a Remmie 700 VSF, I reckon. There seems to be this myth always leading to a 55 gn bullet.. This email link is to reach site administrators for assistance, if you cannot access TFL via other means. Local area here most go with a .243 for coy doggies over even a 22-250 just due to the afternoon wind factor. Not a varmint bullet) you will be fine. 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