The reason is a shared ancestry going back to the same exidus from india. Endquote. These people should be added not erased, There is much evidence on this page. I am half, and was raised fairly traditional. Well the same thing is going on right now, only there are no Roma to defend their own community on wikipedia. Burgas00 what are you doing? If one is a Sinti as Django Reinhardt, that wold make him not Roma, but Sinti. The sources state Roma ancestry Yea enough already, go leave, The list stays. You sure you don't "make whoopi" with them? Verdict: Not a Jew. "When the notable Roma academic, Professor Ian Hancock, wrote his most recent book, We are the Romani people he included at the end a list of politicians, film stars, artists and so on of Romany descent. There is evidence I provided but just because you don't accept it, it does'nt mean that you are the person who deems who is Gypsy, mixed or not, You Going to do this forever you twit? Gypsy? It only takes a few generations of mixing to produce people who don't resemble Roma,some 1/2 Native Americans or Mexicans have blond hair blue eyes,my dad is half Roma, and for the most part he looks white and you would'nt think anything else. There are no Gypsies in Oklahoma... You sleep with white girls? The WRC flag was given more exposure in 1979, when a Romani delegation comprising Hancock and Yul Brynner presented it to the United Nations. So once again you know me more than myself. While Brynner was still young, their father left them under the care of their mother. His vitsa vouched for him. It is clear that none of us harbour racist intentions. or White? 1. Or how about those wierd protestant sects you have in the US: The Messianic Christians?? Even the name, Yul: as … http://www.geocities.com/~patrin/timeofthegypsies.htm, http://www.webprincess.com/facab/apr98.htm, http://members.tassie.net.au/~rteirney/Bill_Blyth.html, http://www.travellersinleeds.co.uk/_travellers/boxing.html, http://www.tiscali.co.uk/entertainment/film/biographies/helen_mirren_biog.html, http://www.newhumanist.org.uk/volume119issue2_more.php?id=591_0_26_0_C, http://www.time.com/time/archive/printout/0,23657,776360,00.html, http://www.radoc.net:8088/RADOC-34-ROMANCE.htm, http://www.ultimaterc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29504, http://www.stlouis.missouri.org/501c/gitana/page2D.html, http://www.imninalu.net/famousgypsies.htm, Hancock, Ian;We are the Romani People;University of Hertfordshire Press;2003, Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information, http://www.hollywood.com/celebs/fulldetail/id/1118607, http://www.wirehouse.com/bio.asp?t=a&SiteID=FairuzaBalk, http://xpress.sfsu.edu/archives/arts/004703.html, http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9017835?tocId=9017835, http://www.imninalu.net/famousGypsies.htm, http://www.kimia-sains.com/articles/Romany, http://www.talkingpix.co.uk/ReviewsSwing.html, http://www.kipaddotta.com/rita-hayworth.html, http://www.fmsound.net/NewReleases/Articles/Albert%20Lee/Albert%20Lee.html, http://entertainment.msn.com/movies/movie.aspx?m=181345, http://www.everyculture.com/multi/Du-Ha/Gypsy-Americans.html, http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/1902806190, http://www.virtualtourist.com/travel/Europe/Spain/Andalucia/Sevilla-253763/Things_To_Do-Sevilla-Triana_District-R-1.html-, https://the-talks.com/interview/sir-michael-caine/, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_Roma_people&oldid=919602622, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License, This page was last edited on 4 October 2019, at 16:13. http://www.bookrags.com/biography-august-krogh-wap/, http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/roma/gft/gft138.htm, http://thorntree.lonelyplanet.com/messagepost.cfm?postaction=reply&catid=40&threadid=13776&messid=82235&STARTPAGE=1&parentid=0&from=1, http://www.mtv.com/bands/b/branch_michelle/news_feature_100601/index.jhtml, Who keeps taking out Yul Brynner and Ava Gardner?, both are documented as being of Roma Descent, --Please post this documentation.--Jbull 20:26, 21 February 2006 (UTC), http://www.geocities.com/~patrin/culture.htm, Again you need to read the whole web page, http://www.curiousnotions.com/home/gazetteer/_rom.html, http://www.tvacres.com/ethnic_thailander.htm. A fact that had to be proven to the council in London in order to establish the Gypsy campsite there. Beyond his distinctive appearance and distinguished acting career was a life of intrigue and concocted tales surrounding his youth. His daughter Victoria put together Yul Brynner: Photographer (ISBN 0-8109-3144-3), a collection of his photographs of family, friends, and fellow actors, as well as those he took while serving as a UN special consultant on refugees. I once asked them how they met, my parents said they were on a bus and met each other trying to pick their pockets." If you are of Roma descent you dont get a Id card like Native Americans and you dont get documented as "this or that".I think also it is difficult to find a published source as to to who made whoopy with somebodys grandparent. Can we decide on a standardized definition used by a international group such as the First National Romani Congress for basic terms such as Roma and Sinti? Famous People who have voiced their Gypsy Ancestry done so to let people know they are of mixed ancestry and not 100% white or black and not 100% what they seem to be. I dont even say I am of Roma Ancestry to people,I am in the Midwest-USA and people never even heard of Gypsies(Roma), So my childrens children ...Will probably never know that they are of Roma Ancestry unless they are told they are. Yul Brynner (Sahalin, 11. srpnja 1920.- New York, 10. listopada 1985. I agree, some travelling people have no Indic blood,but at the same time blond blue eye English Romany speak with words of Indic origin. So don't act like you can generalize this subject at all. Well she follows the Kabballa and has changed her name to Esther!! The Yul Brynner Cookbook Foods Fit for the King and You 200 Dishes He Liked Best. And a cook. Well she follows the Kabballa and has changed her name to Esther!! Item Information. The law of exponents? http://www.talkingpix.co.uk/ReviewsSwing.html, Edyta Gorniak Born Taidje Khan on July 11, 1917, on the island of Sakhalin off northern Japan, Brynner was the son of a Mongolian mining engineer and a Gypsy mother who … $41.00 2 bids + $5.00 shipping . A Bastard with a Heart of Gold 75 9. http://www.imninalu.net/famousGypsies.htm, Rita Hayworth They must be taken seriously as an ethnic group, and not be victimized by western ignorance and romanticism. If this assumtion is correct this would mean that she is only 1/8th Romani. Picasso was quite proud of it. http://www.pirkadat.org/gypsy_spirit2004, Nikita Denise Once Upon a Time in Hollywood 56 8. my family are of romany gypsy culture .. my mother and all her family are romany gypsies carrying the name butler... my dads family are also romany gypsies carrying the name hoskins... now my mothers side of the family are very olive skinned and black hair darker in general.. but my dads side is very fair skinned with light coloured hair but both are of romany gypsies culture my dads side are not as strong of a culture they are more relaxed and have settled in a house dwellers surroundings but still have alot of the morals and beliefs.. my mothers side are alot more involved in there culture and have continued to expess there morals and values in a high standard ..most are still in trailers on gypsy sites (what few remain) living there way of life to the best they can . Yul was a hidden Jew, right? 3:19 PREVIEW The End of the Road. A Treasury of Great Recipes Vincent Price & Mary Price First 1st Edition 1965. She … YUL BRYNNER The Gypsy And I VINYL LP Aliosha Dimitrievitch ROMANI Serge Camps. Shipping Info. Famous Roma must be REAL Roma not people who claim (or of whom it is claimed) they have Gypsy ancestry. Why do I care if you dont care, I have good sources that say "Person X is of Roma Heritage" I have, Their in, Yes, its the same with anything on Wikipedia, people of Roma heritage go on the list. 30 5. At his request, the message was aired after his death, preceded by the announcement "Ladies and gentlemen, the late Yul Brynner". View credits, reviews, tracks and shop for the 1967 Vinyl release of The Gypsy And I on Discogs. He himself claimed to be of Roma descent, Bullcrap- As for Yul Brynner, he encouraged reporters to think he was a gypsy or half-Japanese, half-French, or an orphaned Mongolian noble. 1967 Preview SONG TIME The Line of Fate. Either he/she should stop or should be banned. "What most readers comment on, however, is the surprising list of notable people of Roma descent: Yul Brynner, Charlie Chaplin, former US President Bill Clinton, Rita Hayworth, Bob Hoskins and Freddie Prinze." http://www.radoc.net/RADOC-23-ADOPT.htm View credits, reviews, tracks and shop for the 1967 Vinyl release of The Gypsy And I on Discogs. The usage could suggest a gypsy lifesstyle and not ethnicity. In Balkan states or former Yugoslavia itermarriages between Roma people and others are very uncommon, partialy because of isolation of Roma communities and mostly because of prejudices toward Roma people . They seem pretty specific to me. He was not just an actor but also a performer who impressed millions of viewers with his wide range of talent, bustling energy, impeccable looks and charming self. In fact, he was none of those things, born in a corner of Russia close to China called Vladivostok. Naimly, the father of Brynner's mother Marousia Dimitrievna Blagovidova was a Russian Jew and her mother was Russian Roma. Apr 29, 2019 - (Adult) Exceptional energy in these men of history. His fluency in Russian and French enabled him to build up a following with the Czarist expatriates in Paris. I find this disrespectful and offensive. I apologize. Then why the term Roma AND Sinti, as if they are two different groups? I’m the King! https://www.sunsigns.org/famousbirthdays/d/profile/yul-brynner Im changing the title to "People with Acknowledged Roma Heritage" since many of the are known to have Gypsy Ancestry like Charlie Chaplin. Do I care if anyone believes me? I gave references to Ava Gardner, Freddy Prinze. Not people who claimed they have Gypsy Ancestry? After his father abandoned the family, Brynner's mother took him and his sister to China, then to Paris, where he played guitar and sang gypsy songs in Parisian nightclubs. So leave it alone, or I will be forced to notify the administrators. You act as if the world is Black and White.They are mixed Roma Ethnic Roma or famous people with alleged Roma ancestry? Don't give me that one drop bullcrap, These people specifically stated they have Roma Heritage. This list is for Roma, Sinti and MIXED PEOPLE- GO TO Roma People scroll down and it says ROMA, SINTI AND MIXED PEOPLE.......MIXED PEOPLE!!!!!!! Bisexual Russian-born actor Yul Brynner (1920-1985) began his career playing guitar and singing gypsy songs among Russian immigrants in Parisian nightclubs. I may be 1/100th Chinese but that does not make me Chinese. There are hundreds of references as to Yul Brynner When she settled down in New York City, she tried to start a singing career. I dont know she was on the list from before I began coming here, Tony Gatlif This list is for Roma, Sinti, and people of mixed ancestry, so Charlie Chaplin, Rita Hayworth, Ava Gardner Yul Brynner,David Blaine and others belong on this list, because they are of mixed ancestry.You Bulgarian,tell your white Momma I said Hello!! I know things need to be verified in certain things like science,law,logic,etc...but there is very little verifiable evidence in regards to Roma Ancestry, along with other ethnic groups for that matter. On the cast list of The Magnificent Seven (1960), you will find several names that doubtless you know well: Charles Bronson, Steve McQueen, and Take our follically challenged friend, Yul Brynner. Sinti ARE Roma. No I did'nt. YUL BRYNNER The Gypsy And I VINYL LP Aliosha Dimitrievitch ROMANI Serge Camps. Officials would not allow him to move forward with this project until he proved he was, indeed, of the Russian Romany heritage he claimed to be. Dietrich and Crawford 42 6. She is not more Gypsy than I am. The man just screams goy. Everyday low prices and free delivery on eligible orders. All I have asked you is not to vandalise the talk page. I hope I am not coming off as hardheaded, It is a jigsaw puzzle with pieces missing. And yes, I can back these claims up. https://www.thefamouspeople.com/profiles/yul-brynner-3242.php "Robifoxxx's classification is eerily close to what it was in Nazi Germany (except in Nazi Germany probably provided proper research and sources!!!! "...(its main character, played by Freddy Prinze, claimed Romani descent himself)." I personaly have a issue with Bill Clinton being listed here based on Ian Hancocks claims that he was Romani, it is highly disputable. The Magnificent Seven 93 10. I hope he may be added to the list too. I said my Grandpa was Gypsy, I have Gypsy Ancestry. !Maybe she likes coffee with her cream, you know-whoopi:)Robbyfoxxxx 15:42, 13 April 2006 (UTC), By the way, Robbyfoxxx, I am not Bulgarian, I am Armenian.--Burgas00 15:38, 26 April 2006 (UTC), Actually we are unfortunately called half breeds by our own. Famous Roma must be REAL Roma? THE YUL BRYNNER COOKBOOK First Edition Gypsy Thai Swiss Russian More Cuisine VG. You are trying to exclude people for not being 100% Gypsy. Sintis are considered one of the Roma subgroups. The list states "People with Roma Heritage" you dont know to what degree they are Roma, so your broad brushstrokes. The Roma of England have blond hair and blue eyes mostly.They also vaker the chib.There maybe a melting pot effect that is not occuring in the Balkans, but it is definitely happening in the US and Western Europe.Many of us American Roma don't know we are Roma until we are told when we are older by an Aunt,Uncle or Grandparent. No, but I think that acknowledgement is positive when people have mixed ancestry. I also want to point out that there are similiar communities (mostly in Western Europe) who may not be of same Indian origins like Roma. Yul Brynner won a best actor Oscar for playing King Mongkut of Siam in the 1956 film version of the Rodgers and Hammerstein musical The King and I. I hope come to an agreement on the list.I also would like to apologize for all misunderstandings. Even the Pope acknowledged her Romany heritage. The section is not for people who are not pure-blooded Roma (I dont think such thing exists), it is for people who are simply NOT Roma at all- Like George Soros, or Ava Gardner, but have or may have Roma ancestors... --Burgas00 23:41, 26 April 2006 (UTC). She is Native American, White, and Indian-all at the same time. Look at the earlier citings on this discussion page, Come on now, Im not going to repeat every citing to every single person who asks for it. Rita Hayworth's father and grandfather were wealthy Gitanos well known in New York. --Guzman ramirez 21:04, 24 April 2006 (UTC). In fact, he was none of those things, born in a corner of Russia close to China called Vladivostok. It was Yul Brynner's project. Please, give me a break. Do you have a source for that statement? Anastasia is a 1956 American historical drama film directed by Anatole Litvak and written by Arthur Laurents.Set in interwar France, the film follows a plot related to rumors that the Grand Duchess Anastasia Nikolaevna of Russia, the youngest daughter of the late Tsar Nicholas II and Empress Alexandra Feodorovna, survived the execution of her family in 1918. Mad Jack 22:39, 2 August 2006 (UTC), Completely unsourced? "Freddy Prinze: "It was always weird growing up Hunga-Rican. Czech. And I will revert it back, because unlike you, who will move on to another subject when you are fancy, I will still be here on List of Roma People, and if you go to Roma People and scroll down, to the "See Also", you will see that the list includes Mixed People. A notable one, at that, as was her grandfather. Therefore, I am moving the list of "distant" ancestry here (as anyone is allowed to remove any content from Wikipedia that is unsourced). Known as the bald cowboy in The Magnificent Seven and the sexy, charismatic male lead in The King and I, Yul Brynner was a Hollywood paragon of masculinity. They feel the need to belong to something. Vera (Borisovna) Bryner was the sister of Yul Brynner (who added a 2nd 'n' to the last name). Famous Roma must be REAL Roma not people who claim (or of whom it is claimed) they have Gypsy ancestry. His father, a mining engineer, also abandoned his family to financial peril when Yul was young. Should they be considered Jews because they follow Jewish rituals? Gypsy King 10 3. >To add to the above The umbrella term Roma should include Sinti', Romanichal, Euro Roma groups etc. --Guzman ramirez 22:02, 24 April 2006 (UTC). I know-a stereotypical Roma, SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN FILE EASILY. http://xpress.sfsu.edu/archives/arts/004703.html, Michelle Branch Template:Robbyfoxxxx, Robyfoxxx I have the impression you are one of these 16 year-old new-age type girls and that someone in your family told that your great great grandmother was a Gypsy. The title says Roma, Sinti and MIXED people. I am founder and President of the Opre Foundation. Price: US $28.99. I am confused as to how to get outside verification. was a Gypsy". @# GAdjo, you find some sources I spent 2 hours finding them last night, The source say they have Roma Heritage, therefore they belong in the Roma heritage side, do you understand? Bob Hoskins? http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/1902806190, Sandro Listen to Yul Brynner Radio featuring songs from The Gypsy and I free online. It is in Paris that Brynnersang gypsy songs and playing the guitar in the Parisi… Naimly, the father of Brynner's mother Marousia Dimitrievna Blagovidova was a Russian Jew and her mother was Russian Roma. I am sorry. And for the record..there are Roma in every state, in every major city in the United states.172.129.113.192 (talk) 22:29, 10 May 2010 (UTC)Rasa Sutar. I have cut down the list although I think it should be cut down quite a bit more. Yul Brynner with Aliosha Dimitrievitch ‎– The Gypsy And I Label: Vanguard ‎– VSD 79256 Format: Vinyl, LP, Album, Stereo Country: US Released: 1967 ... Yul Brynner With Aliosha Dimitrievitch - The Gypsy And I ‎ … I also know that there are similiar Roma communities ,like those in Eastern Europe ,in Spain and France where i lived for a while. --Jbull 21:58, 21 February 2006 (UTC), http://www.radoc.net:8088/RADOC-34-ROMANCE.htm I don't know about Ava Gardner, never heard that, but I do know that Rita Hayworth's father was Spanish Gitano. Your need for further proof is unreasonable. Well Sintis are Roma right? [citation needed] In 1967, Dimitrievitch and he released a record album The Gypsy and I: Yul Brynner Sings Gypsy Songs (Vanguard VSD 79265). You dont care? On 10th October 1985, Brynner died of lung cancer in New York City the same day a… Who told you that? I know it is very easy to say such harsh things on the computer. http://www.imninalu.net/famousGypsies.htm, George Soros-Did'nt add, Hungarian, gives to Gypsy charities, will look further, Mother Teresa Plus 100,000 AM/FM radio stations featuring music, news, and local sports talk. Also if someone has decided that they do not wish to be counted as Romani, even if they are full blooded Romani in terms of ancestry are they still Romani any more than say most of the population of the Shetland Isles is Viking? Yul Brynner was born on July 11th, 1920. It is claimed in many sources that Hitler had jewish origins. What is believed is not always the truth. We use cookies and similar tools to enhance your shopping experience, to provide our services, understand how customers use our services so we can make improvements, and display ads. Discover releases, reviews, track listings, recommendations, and more about Are you going to try to tell her she is not Native American? Repealing laws against us, appointing Hancock as the first Rom to head the memorial council, etc..In regards to Mother Teresa's heritage, being half Romany is the one thing everyone can agree on..Including the Pope..it's the other half they fight over. She was well known for her high pitched soprano voice. You aren't defining someone by an ancestor, you are acknowledging that their mixed ancestry exists,which is why these people have said they have Gypsy Ancestry. According to her biography "http://www.tiscali.co.uk/entertainment/film/biographies/helen_mirren_biog.html she has "perhaps a splash of Gypsy blood". http://entertainment.msn.com/movies/movie.aspx?m=181345, Helen Mirren The latest dressing room to get a Yul-a-haul is at the Warner Theater, where "The King and I" starts previews Wednesday night, 30 years after Brynner and the King of Siam become associated. Can you give us their website? I am unsure how to progress on this page because of the sheer number of questionable claims to Romani bloodlines. http://www.newhumanist.org.uk/volume119issue2_more.php?id=591_0_26_0_C There seem to be a large number of people listed on this page that have dubious at best connections to possibly be Rom. He is Rom. It was a requirement, or else they would have denied approval for the campsite. However the simile stands. I think you people hate seeing so many People with Gypsy ancestry as successful. There are also the Romnichal in Great Britain, but I am still not sure if these are real ethnic Roma... Anyways Roma is the official policitally correct term for all these groups originating in North West India.--Burgas00 10:38, 27 April 2006 (UTC), The term "Roma and Sinti" is used to describe both groups. As for the "Gypsy and Road Travellers Federation" I do not know this organization and I am sure that 95% of Roma in Europe have never heard of it. Etc., Etc., Etc. How will she be classified? Your preaching to the choir and you need to stop this,It is getting rather stupid fighting about this shit to complete strangers. In September 1983, he found a lump on his vocal cords. If you have one drop of "non-white" blood you are considered (by some) as not "white". Is Pushkin black? His father, Boris Bryner was an engineer while his mother had taken acting and dancing classes. Actually he had only 1/4th of Romany blood, and 1/4th Jewish, by his mother Marousia Blagovidova, whose father was a Russian Jew and her mother a Russian Gypsy. 100% satisfaction guaranteed. --Jbull 21:58, 21 February 2006 (UTC), http://www.ultimaterc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29504 See more ideas about yul brynner, movie stars, actors. Out of his activities as a passionate ambassador of the Gypsy tradition, he is considered an exotic leading man of American films, famed as much for his completely … — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.83.177.138 (talk) 23:20, 20 September 2013 (UTC). And get one thing clear, there are people of mixed ancestry,is that so hard to believe? so leave it alone, this section is for "People with Roma Heritage", to differentiate from "Roma People". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.83.177.138 (talk) 23:11, 20 September 2013 (UTC). Or how about those wierd protestant sects you have in the US: The Messianic Christians?? Yul Brynner wasn’t only the King of Siam. --Jbull 21:58, 21 February 2006 (UTC), http://www.time.com/time/archive/printout/0,23657,776360,00.html I can tell you right now, my aunt was at the opening of London's largest camp site. Born in Russia, Yul Brynner claimed to have Romany heritage, and even released albums singing Gypsy music. Free shipping . As you see most people belong on this list, But can we do the reverse? Btw I think the rule is "assume good faith". Past Imperfect 3 2. Find art you love and shop high-quality art prints, photographs, framed artworks and posters at Art.co.uk. http://www.wirehouse.com/bio.asp?t=a&SiteID=FairuzaBalk, (Eugene Hutz) Gogol Bordello The chances are that a young girl from midwest America who thinks she is a Gypsy and thinks that a long list of people (Bill Clinton, Britney Spears, Elvis Presley...) are also Gypsies, can only be white 8-), and I would add blonde!!!! That is a lie and you know it. Tou want people to carry a ID card that says I am Roma to prove it? I know a girl whose American Dad is 1/4 Cherokee, her Mother is 1/2 White Australian 1/2 Indian from India. ;-), If you are 1/100th Chinese, no you are not Chinese-you are part ChineseBy the way, Im not white-you fool. Robbyfoxxxx 23:11, 12 April 2006 (UTC), Robbyfoxxx: Don'use the "Im Gypsy" argument of authority, when you have no other. He had four children from his marriages. http://www.geocities.com/~patrin/timeofthegypsies.htm Najpoznatiji je po ulozi sijamskog kralja u mjuziklu Kralj i ja u kazalištu i na velikom platnu, kao i Ramzesa II. --Burgas00 21:16, 10 April 2006 (UTC), Hey, just because I sleep with White girls does'nt make me white. Beyond his distinctive appearance and distinguished acting career was a life of intrigue and concocted tales surrounding his youth. Format: 12" LP (33 RPM) Condition: VG+ Genre: Folk. We owe the Roma people some respect: Imagine this page was called "list of jewish people". I think this whole page should be blanked out and redone from scratch... Roma is the part of Mother Theresa's heritage that is not disputed..it's her other half that gets argued over. He eventually revealed his gypsy background, often publicly speaking on gypsy affairs. http://www.virtualtourist.com/travel/Europe/Spain/Andalucia/Sevilla-253763/Things_To_Do-Sevilla-Triana_District-R-1.html-, The people on it are not randomly picked, @#%# Gadjos, you want everybody to do everything for you.Here's an idea, next time, find them yourself. You are right Guzman, I need to calm down. Yul Brynner replaces Lee Van Cleef in the title role for 1971's Adios, Sabata, the second and best entry in producer Alberto Grimaldi's spaghetti Western trilogy about the mysterious stranger with an unknown past and a penchant for righteousness, as long as there's serious cash involved. The "People with Roma heritage" section, aside admittedly being completely unsourced, is also completely irrelevant. Ava Gardner Roma by her own affirmations http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/roma/gft/gft138.htm, Yul Brynner But also their is dark skinned Roma, that don't speak any words of Indic Origin at all. I have a great Idea, try to add people to the list, I have not seen Burgas00 or Guzman add a person yet. His acting career is associated with just two roles — the King of Siam (in the King and I) and Ramses II (in Ten Commandments). ^^^ARE YOU RETARDED?? This excellent biography of Yul Brynner, written by his son Rock, is a must-read for all of the King's many fans. She doesn't have to state she is Romany, anyone who has a grasp on how DNA is passed down automatically KNOWS this makes her 1/8th. There are people from everywhere, even from Bulgaria in Oklahoma. Robbyfoxxxx 00:46, 23 February 2006 (UTC), The lie is that I would need outside verification to prove I am of Roma Ancestry if an article was written about me. As for Yul Brynner, he encouraged reporters to think he was a gypsy or half-Japanese, half-French, or an orphaned Mongolian noble. I don't want to be misunderstood, like I'm having something against Roma people. and even being 1/4 black, alot of times they are still identified as "Black" by others so your one drop rule, only counts when they look white, its bullcrap. Until you educate yourself on genetics, stop editing the page. PEOPLE PLEASE!. (1957) Album: "The Gypsy and I: Yul Brynner Sings Gypsy Songs" (Vanguard Records) After his lung cancer had progressed to the terminal stage, Brynner taped a public service message urging others to quit smoking. Additionally, he was also a television director, model, photographer, and author of several books. In any case, Roma ethnicity is not defined by having a Gypsy ancestor but by being ethnic Roma: having recieved Roma culture and having at least one Roma parent.I guess it is similar to the definition of being jewish. What is a REAL Roma? Therefore they are of Roma descent The Roma are one tribe the Sinti are also a tribe, Sinti are not Roma. His father, a mining engineer, also abandoned his family to financial peril when Yul was young. http://psychcentral.com/psypsych/Helen_Mirren, Denny Laine Housed in an 8,000 square foot warehouse that currently holds over 2 million records, Craig and his talented, dedicated staff serve music lovers in more than 60 countries. http://www.ultimaterc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29504 … And Yul Brynner's son can argue it till he's blue in the face, Brynner was, indeed part Roma on his mother's side. And most recently, Ronnie Wood from the Rolling stones admitted he is Rom on his 60th birthday when his wife gave him a bow-top vardo. … And Yul Brynner's son can argue it till he's blue in the face, Brynner was, indeed part Roma on his mother's side. So can you guess where we're going here? I said Im Gypsy? 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